It's funny, but the reason they're fucked doesn't have much to do with actual quality. American cars have been quite good over the past years, not quite as good as Japanese makes but superior to almost anything that Europe puts out; even VW and Mercedes have been shitty recently. And it's not styling that's hurting Detroit; look at the utter lack of anything with character coming out of Japan, and people still by Hondas and Toyotas like mad, even though there's not a single Toyota or Honda that looks like anything other than an aerodynamic shoe box.
Their management is fucked, the unions have raped their bottom line, and they move with the speed of a decayed fossil. It's got nothing to do with foreign imports actually having superior quality.
even if american cars have been good quality recently, most people still believe they are shit and won't buy them. i drove a ford in the 90s and it was an absolute POS.
Every car make out there has someone who's bought it and decided it was a piece of shit. There are always outliers. Based on these stories, we should buy no cars at all, because all manufacturers turn out junk.
I'm not disputing that there's a common feeling that American cars are shitboxes, but it doesn't reflect reality.
That said, this poster would work much, much better if it had a picture of a Pontiac Aztec on it.
i guess i'm just saying that they have been known to make shitty cars, and ultimately that is their fault even if things have changed recently. too little too late. but, i drive a mazda, which a lot of people might not even realize is ford, and it's been good to me for 7 years.
the aztec makes me literally lol when i see one, which now that you mention it, i have not in a very long time.
This is a bailout LOAN currently for about $15B from what I most recently heard with many more requirements proposed and still not finalized than the $700B given away to the financial industry without restriction or oversight controls or talk of having the CEOs resign... why doesn't anyone seem to care about that?
People do care about the $700 B bailout. But it's easier to mock the auto companies since they have a much more established presence in the American psyche than AIG or Fannie Mae.
Heard this ad from South Carolina being discussed by some Detroit area DJs this morning... I find it interesting that the guy is selling more cars this way, even with others condemning his words as racist...
Agreed that Ford/GM/Chrysler seem more real/specific than Fannie Mae and AIG... or perhaps more people want to benefit from Fannie Mae and keep their houses or something...
I just wish that more attention was spent ahead of time on the $700B rather than the $14B currently on the table that comes from existing/budgeted funds already.
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Date: 2008-12-09 06:52 am (UTC)And what really stinks, is that the US will probably borrow more of our money to pay it with. :(
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Date: 2008-12-09 08:15 pm (UTC)Their management is fucked, the unions have raped their bottom line, and they move with the speed of a decayed fossil. It's got nothing to do with foreign imports actually having superior quality.
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Date: 2008-12-09 09:26 pm (UTC)I'm not disputing that there's a common feeling that American cars are shitboxes, but it doesn't reflect reality.
That said, this poster would work much, much better if it had a picture of a Pontiac Aztec on it.
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Date: 2008-12-09 09:36 pm (UTC)the aztec makes me literally lol when i see one, which now that you mention it, i have not in a very long time.
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Date: 2008-12-11 04:27 pm (UTC)Agreed that Ford/GM/Chrysler seem more real/specific than Fannie Mae and AIG... or perhaps more people want to benefit from Fannie Mae and keep their houses or something...
I just wish that more attention was spent ahead of time on the $700B rather than the $14B currently on the table that comes from existing/budgeted funds already.