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Anybody take this course? Thoughts?

From an email forwarded by a a friend:

"...I was fortunate enough to recently attend the two day course put on by Lee
Aldrige and Roger (Last Name Unknown) from Reality Based Fighting Concepts /
http://www.fightingconcepts.com/

First of all let me say that Lee and Roger exceeded my expectations in all
areas during this course. My money was extremely well spent. I would not
hesitate to recommend this course to both beginners and advanced students of
self defense.

The course lasted from 10am to 4pm on both Saturday and Sunday. This was a
perfect amount of time for the material that was taught. By the time Sunday
afternoon rolled around all students had learned basic strikes, the
Cowcatcher, weapon disarms, and had been exposed to basic ground escapes.

Beyond just being exposed to a series of techniques and applying them to a
pad holding partner the students had the chance to apply the techniques
under stress using both the Bulletman Suit and the Shocknife. In my opinion
validation is necessary to prove to the student the applicability of the
technique under stress. I was thankful that Lee and Roger gave us plenty of
this. The Bulletman Suit and Shocknife are outstanding training aids that
both enable the student to strike as hard as they can as well as feel the
stress of self preservation when being attacked with a knife.

Lee and Roger’s teaching style was very conducive to a group of adult
learners. Lee and Roger demonstrated the techniques, allowed the student to
test the technique on a pad, then quickly moved to applying the technique on
the Bulletman Suit to get the student used to striking a person vice a pad
– aiding in the student visualizing the technique’s use in a fight. In
addition to Lee and Roger being able to easily convey their curriculum they
were also able to answer questions from students about techniques they had
learned at other courses and why they are better or possibly riskier in
application then the RBFC curriculum.

Dino and Ashley were great hosts. Their facility was perfect for this type
of instruction and I would not hesitate to attend a course there again
work-schedule willing.

Now on to what I learned…

- Under stress I default to hammer-fists and elbows more then any other
strike.

- Under stress I forgot to buck when I was tackled and taken to the ground.
This is something I need to work on and when I asked to try it again Lee and
Roger obliged me by tackling me again.

- Lee and Roger’s curriculum for gun disarms is the best I’ve seen so far.

- The Bulletman Suit and Shocknife go a hell of a long way to building the
confidence of the student regarding their ability to hit hard as well as
control a knife wielding opponent with the stress of self-preservation
kicking in.

- I wore a heart rate monitor during a few of the scenarios and it peaked at
137 during the force on force scenarios. I was pleasantly surprised. It
returned to a “waiting for my turn again” rate of 80 within two minutes.

Overall if you haven’t yet had the RBFC experience you are missing out. I’ve
been to CQD, Crucible, and served as an Instructor with a PMC. Based upon
these experiences I know when I see great training and have no hesitation in
saying that Lee and Roger’s curriculum and their ability to teach is easily
on par with the best in the business.
Lee Aldridge
Head Instructor
Reality Based Fighting Concepts
www.fightingconcepts.com

Original: craschworks - comments

Date: 2008-06-30 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjayman.livejournal.com
I've been following Lee's discussions on a web forum for a while now, and his teachings and discussions are very succinct and they all make sense to me. Without taking his training firsthand, I would still cautiously recommend him based upon what I've seen him espouse. No weekend seminar will make you 100% prepared for anything, but training in a pressure environment makes the most sense. If you don't actually hit somebody or have somebody trying to "put it on you," you are training to fail, period.

FWIW, Lee and several other exceptionally smart individuals hang out on totalprotectioninteractive.com. I recommend registering and reading a lot, but saying very little, as they are some harsh mofos on that board.

Date: 2008-06-30 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Cool, thanks! Yeah, I agree, there's only so much you can learn in a weekend. What courses do you recommend?

Date: 2008-06-30 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smjayman.livejournal.com
You mean like weekend seminars, or ongoing instruction? I would recommend something different based on that criteria alone. ;)

If you want some good weekend instruction, I really recommend anything done by SouthNarc. His classes focus a lot on the stuff that other instructors leave out, including pre-assault cues and pre-assault tactics. His training schedule is here:

http://www.shivworks.com/tutorials.asp

There are a lot of decent guys out there to learn from, it really depends on your focus. Do you want to learn pistolcraft, knife, empty hand/h2h, etc? I'd probably send you to different people, depending on what your focus is. For instance, if you want to learn a lot about bladed (knife) combat, Tom Sotis (AMOK) is probably one of the most available and best guys to get some instruction from.

Date: 2008-06-30 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com

Thanks!


You mean like weekend seminars, or ongoing instruction?

Both. Though I'm more likely to take a short course, I'd like to know what long courses exist so when I have more time and money, I know what to take.

Do you want to learn pistolcraft, knife, empty hand/h2h, etc?

Well, eventually, all of the above. My goal is to be able to a) avoid/de-escalate likely attacks b) mount a reasonable attack/defense if avoidance/de-escalation is impossible. Suppose you were designing a year long course for someone new to self-defense. Suppose they could study four hours/week. What would you recommend they study to get the most "bang for the buck"? How much time would you recommend that they spend in each of the above areas?

Date: 2008-06-30 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perich.livejournal.com
Reading a stranger's summary of the course: nothing in there strikes me as a bad idea.

Date: 2008-07-01 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Thanks!

Date: 2008-06-30 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nelliebelle.livejournal.com
hmmm i'm interested in learning how to disarm people. i size up every person i see as a threat and decide whether i'd fight/resist them or not, but that all goes out the window if a weapon were to ever be involved.

Date: 2008-07-01 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'd like to learn more about disarming someone too (or at least neutralizing their attack). Though I think that, if it all possible, the best strategy is to get outta dodge.

Date: 2008-06-30 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vyus.livejournal.com
my krav gym does this from time to time. we get the sheriff's folks in the big suits and you get into full attack mode. popular day with the ladies (cops and firemen in the suits and all).

Date: 2008-06-30 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] savorie.livejournal.com
This in Albuquerque?

Date: 2008-06-30 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Yes, they appear to be in Alberquerque.

Date: 2008-07-02 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fitfool.livejournal.com
I haven't taken anything of the sort but I'm glad you asked because it sounds like a cool class.