[personal profile] archerships
Huh. The police monitor your utility bills. Good to know.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=3&u=/ap/20040328/ap_on_re_us/electricity_probe_1




CARLSBAD, Calif. - When police noticed Dina Dagy's family was spending $250 to $300 a month on electricity, they suspected a marijuana farm was flourishing under high-intensity lights inside their suburban home.


What they found when they showed up with a drug-sniffing dog and a search warrant was a wife and mother who does several loads of laundry a day, keeps a dishwashing machine going, has three electricity-guzzling computers and three kids who can't remember to turn the lights out when they leave a room.

"It's hard to believe a high utility bill would be enough to issue a state warrant," said Dagy, who is demanding the Police Department issue a written apology.

Authorities say they have already apologized verbally several times and were only following proper procedures. Tracking down marijuana growers by reviewing electricity bills, they say, is a common practice.

"I understand they feel something isn't appropriate here, but it is very much consistent with how search warrants are prepared," said police Lt. Bill Rowland.

When authorities noticed how high the bill for the Dagy home was, they sent a police dog to the neighborhood, and it reacted as though it had smelled drugs.

They also noticed the family had put its trash out that morning, something police say drug growers often do to hide the evidence. In the Dagys' case, however, it was trash day.



When officers returned on March 19 with a search warrant, Dagy was volunteering at her son's second-grade class. She was heading back to her car when police arrived at the school, and she returned home and let them into the house.



They found nothing illegal, and she says she feels fortunate she wasn't in her son's classroom when they arrived.



"I would have been so embarrassed," she said, "and my son would have died: `They're taking your mommy away!'"

Date: 2004-03-28 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jozafiend.livejournal.com
This has been known by, uh, certain crowds for quite some time. Not that I know or anything. ;-)
From: [identity profile] denshi.livejournal.com
Thinking about that and the development of solar power brings to mind the Neo-Victorian dilemma at the end of The Diamond Age -- 'how can we maintain order without control of the power supply?'

Date: 2004-03-29 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Yeah, but I'm a relative babe in the woods when it comes to this sort of thing. While I have a very low opinion of governments, I'm surprised that ours has degraded this far without such practices being more widely known.

Date: 2004-03-28 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindwalker.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, my utility bill often gets close to that amount in the summer months without anything growing inside. I think the reasons are similar to the ones above. I'd like to get some solar and wind power going at my house, but I don't really know how to go about it. I think it's in a good location for both.

Of course, it's another chilling aspect of the modern police state that this sort of thing [police monitoring utility bills] happens at all, and that people are willing to tolerate it.



Date: 2004-03-29 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Agreed. Reduced surveillance is a little recognized benefit of energy independence.

Off the grid.

Date: 2004-03-29 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extremejessy.livejournal.com
It can be very challenging and very rewarding to not depend on the grid as much.

First look at: http://homepower.com/
then go for glory with: http://otherpower.com/

Cheers.

Re: Off the grid.

Date: 2004-03-29 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Indeed. Are you off the grid?

Re: Off the grid.

Date: 2004-03-30 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extremejessy.livejournal.com
I was off of the Grid in Ohio, but back on with a recent move to NC.

Date: 2004-03-29 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] h-postmortemus.livejournal.com
Well, to be more accurate, Police routinely subpoena for searches of utility bills looking for unusual patterns. I wouldn't really call it monitoring, that implies a level of attentiveness that frankly law enforcement rarely has.

Date: 2004-03-29 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crasch.livejournal.com
Hmmm...I dunno. It seems quite plausible that the power company turns over a list of customers who're using unusually high amounts of electricity. While perhaps that's not "monitoring" it's close enough to give me the willies.

monitor?

Date: 2004-03-29 04:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
too bad the cops don't pay your bills, what else wonders what they monitor too? Wildflower

Monitoring Wildflowers

Date: 2004-03-29 05:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The California state flower is the California poppy. It's a gorgeous flower that grows wild in California.

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/poppy/species.html

vs.

http://www.globalhemp.com/News/2000/July/what_does_a_poppy_seed.html

Perhaps there is a botanist in this group who can confirm or deny this, but I bet that a bag of California poppy seeds would make a drug sniffing dog fink on you. I know that eating poppy seed cake can make your urine test positive for opiates.

duh

Date: 2004-04-06 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkfader.livejournal.com
THis has been going on over a decade, when a study of marajuana groweries revealed enormous electrical (and other utility) usage as a common fixture, there have been for years books on growing pot that outline countermeasures, which indicates this is old news.

But odd that so few innocent people have been victimized by this, apparently now the large bill is enough to secure a warrant (unless you live in MS,or LA, where they don't need one.)

*shudder*