Unfortunately, prior to your assignment statement, "one line" != "one sentence".
I'm glad you find a completely fabricated indictment of a pithy quote taken out of context for the purpose of making an argumentum ad absurdium attack on an entire political philosophy constitutes "intelligent debate" in your eyes. It means that I've not missed anything important by not having you in my life all these years.
Ah, you don't have the whole context, apotheon. His comment is a bit of needling among friends. candid, with rare exceptions, has historically cast a very jaundiced, bloodshot eye upon altruistic justifications of the state. I would recommend him as part of anyone's life, especially if you enjoy dead baby jokes.
Do you think that the term can only refer to the formatting of the text?
No, the term can have more than one definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=line&r=67), which means that such a statement of universal equality ("'One line' = 'One sentence'") is false.
Do you really have nothing better to do than to argue over whether I used a word correctly? (Hint: I did.)
Do you? You've got as many posts discussing terminology on this thread as I do. But you're right, this has gotten dull pretty quickly, so feel free to get the last word. My apologies for dragging this out.
Hmm. Upon rereading this discussion roughly twenty-four hours later, I think "Try not to be ignorant" may not have been the ideal means of bringing focus to what I meant by my pseudo-satirical misquote. It was unnecessarily confrontational.
Candid I want to as politely as possible question your premise. Your response implies that people who are free to choose will choose to let their babies starve, while a statist violence based system like the average department of children and family services will be better for children.
You are right in thinking that one will probably be better than the other, do you have any evidence that might persuade me that the a DCFS system enforced with the guns of the state does less damage to children and families than private voluntary programs like Mooseheart?
Brent, it's no use. candid forces his own babies to make fake "Gucci" handbags. Appealing to candid's kindness is like appealing to the Pope for a box of condoms.
That said, Mooseheart sounds like a neat organization. Too bad that the fraternal orders appear to be in decline.
I don't think I implied anything about what people will choose. And I certainly didn't imply anything about one system being "better for children" than another.
All I said is that people who are free to choose are free to choose to let their babies starve. Because if they're not, then it's not really "to each as they are chosen," is it?
it's something the bad communist guys say in an Ayn Rand book. specifically it was the philosophy of the hippie managers of that factory where John Galt invented his motor. i guess i don't really see the point in basing an entire real world political movement on the opposing of fictional hippies.
1. I was making a joke based on a possible (perhaps, even a probable) misinterpretation of his words. I had taken it for granted that everyone knew "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" was a direct quote from Karl Marx, and probably the most familiar and oft-repeated quote. It's regarded as "the justice principle," the "distribution principle" of socialism /communisim; it's called "the communist ideal," etc.
2. I apologize for the subtle logic and presumption of literacy. As long as you keep your awareness virginal, all the relevant insight in the world will seem fictional to you. If you wanna know how to oppose Objectivism, I can give you some advice. The way you're going now, you need it.
To try to make up for bringing the discourse level down here, yes, that is a fantastic credo. It all comes down to choice, and no manmade system will ever change that natural fact. Thank you for posting it.
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Date: 2003-10-20 11:36 am (UTC)Try not to be ignorant.
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Date: 2003-10-20 11:56 am (UTC)Thanks for the intelligent debate!
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Date: 2003-10-20 12:04 pm (UTC)I'm glad you find a completely fabricated indictment of a pithy quote taken out of context for the purpose of making an argumentum ad absurdium attack on an entire political philosophy constitutes "intelligent debate" in your eyes. It means that I've not missed anything important by not having you in my life all these years.
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Date: 2003-11-17 09:18 pm (UTC)In my own defense, however, I'm more of an insensate jackass than a "boob".
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Date: 2003-10-20 01:46 pm (UTC)"One line" = "One sentence."
Wrong. A sentence can go on for more than one line. And a line can have more than one sentence in it.
Thanks for the intelligent debate!
No thanks for trolling and making no attempt at such.
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Date: 2003-10-20 01:50 pm (UTC)Have you ever heard of a one liner?
Do you think that the term can only refer to the formatting of the text?
Do you really have nothing better to do than to argue over whether I used a word correctly? (Hint: I did.)
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Date: 2003-10-20 02:03 pm (UTC)Do you think that the term can only refer to the formatting of the text?
No, the term can have more than one definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=line&r=67), which means that such a statement of universal equality ("'One line' = 'One sentence'") is false.
Do you really have nothing better to do than to argue over whether I used a word correctly? (Hint: I did.)
Do you? You've got as many posts discussing terminology on this thread as I do. But you're right, this has gotten dull pretty quickly, so feel free to get the last word. My apologies for dragging this out.
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Date: 2003-10-20 02:20 pm (UTC)My apologies as well. I jumped at you without doing much thinking. I hate these type of threads, so I'm sorry for helping to turn this into one.
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Date: 2003-10-21 08:37 am (UTC)Questioning your premise...
Date: 2003-10-22 03:02 pm (UTC)You are right in thinking that one will probably be better than the other, do you have any evidence that might persuade me that the a DCFS system enforced with the guns of the state does less damage to children and families than private voluntary programs like Mooseheart?
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Date: 2003-10-23 10:36 am (UTC)That said, Mooseheart sounds like a neat organization. Too bad that the fraternal orders appear to be in decline.
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Date: 2003-10-24 09:31 am (UTC)I don't think I implied anything about what people will choose. And I certainly didn't imply anything about one system being "better for children" than another.
All I said is that people who are free to choose are free to choose to let their babies starve. Because if they're not, then it's not really "to each as they are chosen," is it?
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Date: 2003-10-20 11:23 am (UTC)"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
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Date: 2003-10-20 11:50 am (UTC)"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Which was the previous libertarian motto, right?
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Date: 2003-10-21 12:51 pm (UTC)2. I apologize for the subtle logic and presumption of literacy. As long as you keep your awareness virginal, all the relevant insight in the world will seem fictional to you. If you wanna know how to oppose Objectivism, I can give you some advice. The way you're going now, you need it.
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Date: 2003-10-20 02:06 pm (UTC)To try to make up for bringing the discourse level down here, yes, that is a fantastic credo. It all comes down to choice, and no manmade system will ever change that natural fact. Thank you for posting it.
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